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La sconfitta dell’ Inghilterra in Ukraina non ha prodotto conseguenze dal punto di vista sportivo, con la squadra di Capello già qualificatasi all’ edizione di Sud Africa 2010 della Coppa del Mondo. L’ incontro sembra essere destinato ad essere ricordato principalmente per un paio di fattori a margine. Il primo è rappresentato dall’assolutà novità, non certo gradita dagli sportivi, della trasmissione esclusiva via web ( foto ) dei novanta minuti, accessibili solo dietro il pagamento di una somma compresa tra cinque e dodici sterline ( a seconda del momento di acquisto ). Inoltre, le condizioni in cui si è disputata la partita hanno riaperto polemiche sull’idoneità dell’ Ukraina ad ospitare i campionati europei del 2012. La stampa non ha potuto fare a meno di rimarcare il lancio di torce sul campo da gioco ed un clima sostanzialmente intimidatorio, ben lontano dalle norme sulla sicurezza applicate nei paesi occidentali.La stessa UEFA, allo stato, riconosce ad un solo stadio ukraino il diritto ad ospitare gare della manifestazione continentale mentre tutte le altre sfide dovrebbero giocarsi in Polonia, nazione non meno a rischio sotto il profilo dell’ ordine pubblico. Infine riportiamo parte del dibattito andato in onda sulla BBC relativamente ai successi elettorali recenti del “BNP” e che ha destato polemiche; nel corso dell’ intervista ad alcuni dirigenti del movimento si è toccato il tema della presenza di giocatori di colore nella nazionale, citando specificamente la situazione di Ashley Cole. La frase incriminata, sostanzialmente, sarebbe rappresentata dall’affermazione che nulla vi sarebbe di contrario nel vederlo indossare la maglia dei “bianchi” poichè il giocatore vive e paga le tasse in Inghilterra ma che non potrebbe, comunque, definirsi “britannico”.

 

Fiery England defeat in Ukraine was an international incident, not a football match
Daily Mirror Football
10 October 2009
By Mirror Football Blog

So, football doesn’t matter?

It comes a distant second to braying pub-singers and Z-list celebrity ballroom-dancers?

Think again, Simon Cowell, Brucie Baby and assorted TV luvvies. Consign Fabio Capello’s England to the margins of new technology at your peril, writes Michael Calvin.Because this wasn’t a football match. It was an international incident. England were literally fighting fires from the opening minute.If there is any justice, the empty suits at FIFA will ensure that this second ever international played at the Dnipro Arena is the last.Then UEFA can quickly complete the formalities of moving most of the matches in Euro 2012 to neighbouring Poland.It was chaos, a throwback to the days when fans were allowed to drink enough to render the average elephant unconscious.The game was stopped in the opening seconds as a fusillade of flares rained down on Rob Green’s goal.From then on, England’s goalkeepers needed flame-resistant kit. Security guards rushed on with blankets whenever flares were hurled towards the penalty area.It took until the second half for the authorities to recognise the magnitude of the problem, and ring the offending section of the crowd with two banks of riot police.Green was alone in his misery by then. He trudged off, stony-faced, after lasting just 13 minutes in the mayhem.He was sent off by a Slovenian referee who mistakenly showed a red card to Rio Ferdinand before Capello pointed out the error of his ways to the fourth official.The England manager stood, expressionless, as Andriy Shevchenko put his penalty the wrong side of the right-hand post.His demeanour remained unchanged when Ashley Cole’s casualness on the edge of England’s box led to a goal by Sergei Nazarenko. A nation was paralysed by tension, united by fears for a fading generation of footballers entrusted with the responsibility of qualifying for the World Cup.England are there, of course. It was Ukraine who held their destiny in their own hands.As darkness descended on a sun-blessed early autumn day, the Forbidden City took on a sinister edge.It was easy to imagine why, until 1991, Westerners were barred and locals lived in fear of secret police.Dnipropetrovsk was once a nuclear powerhouse, the centre of the rocket industry. Now, like its national football team, it lives on the margins. UEFA has decreed it is an unworthy host for the 2012 European Championship.UEFA will make a decision on Lviv, Kharkiv and Donetsk next month, but the signs are that Ukraine’s hooligan fringe is an accident waiting to happen.The new Dnipro Arena stands as a symbol of shattered dreams, an icon of isolation. Last night, it hummed to the twin themes of hope and despair, and blazed with blue and yellow, the national colours.It is here, in the outposts of football’s global empire, that you discover the impact of the Premier League.Groups of men hung around the England team hotel throughout the day.

The ticketless congregated around the stadium in sullen envy of those who had the opportunity to make themselves heard. They found solace in two-litre bottles of beer, and homemade hoock.Under the all-chums-together regimes of Sven-Goran Eriksson and Steve McClaren, such an occasion would have been one for the empty gesture.England’s players would have said all the right things, posed for the occasional souvenir photo, and contented themselves with the ultimate irrelevance of proceedings.Capello doesn’t do irrelevant. South Africa may be inked into his diary, but he demands the best. He will have learned much about the character of his men last night.The comparisons with Sir Alf Ramsey, evoked by Sir Bobby Charlton in the build-up, grow more valid by the day. When the hard decisions are required, they will be taken dispassionately, clinically.As the crowd bayed, Capello prowled his technical area, a study in concentration and occasional irritation.He had lived up to his responsibilities to the rest of the group by selecting a strong team, but had his plans disrupted by enforced changes.Capello is happy with the progress made since he took over, but not content.As England conceded possession, and came under understandable pressure, he will have studied Michael Carrick intently.In for Gareth Barry, Carrick could not afford a performance which amplified doubts about his ability to impose himself on the biggest occasions.England are a work in progress. No one argues when Ferdinand suggests that, on current form, England will not win the World Cup.But at least they left this drab, frontier town in one piece. Thank heaven for that small mercy.

 

FA to make complaint over flares

England keeper Rob Green is surrounded by flares
Play was delayed twice in the first half as flares were cleared from the pitch


The Football Association will make a formal complaint to Fifa after flares were thrown on to the pitch during England’s defeat in Ukraine.

Seconds after the match at the Dnipro Stadium kicked off, fans behind Robert Green’s goal lobbed several lit flares into the penalty area.More were hurled after Andriy Shevchenko missed a penalty following Green’s 16th-minute sending off.A spokesman for the FA described the events as “unacceptable”.”We have spoken with the Fifa delegate and we will be submitting a report with regard to the missiles,” said FA director of communications Adrian Bevington.”We will be following that up with a formal complaint.


“It is not acceptable for any player to come under attack from sustained missile-throwing and we will be forwarding that to Fifa in the next week.”After play was stopped twice in the first half to clear the flares from the pitch, BBC Radio 5 live reported that an announcement was made at half-time warning fans that the game would be abandoned if any more were thrown.Ukraine held out for a 1-0 win, which boosted their hopes of securing a place in the play-offs for the final World Cup berths.

(BBC Sport )

 

BBC storm as two of BNP’s most notorious activists are invited on Radio 1 to insult Ashley Cole

By Jason Lewis, Mail on Sunday Security Editor
Last updated at 8:54 AM on 11th October 2009

 

Ashley Cole and Cheryl Cole

Race row: The BNP pair told Radio 1 that Ashley Cole, pictured with wife Cheryl, is not British

The BBC is facing demands for an investigation after allowing two leading BNP activists to make unchallenged ‘racist’ statements on a flagship news broadcast.Radio 1’s Newsbeat programme introduced the interviewees as ‘two young guys who are members of the BNP’ – but a Mail on Sunday investigation has discovered that they were, in fact, key members of the far-Right party’s leadership.The activists claimed black England footballer Ashley Cole was not ‘ethnically British’ and spoke of him ‘coming to this country’ – even though he was born in East London.More than 100 people have complained that the extremists were given an easy ride on the BBC’s most listened-to news broadcast, and now leading politicians are calling for an investigation into whether it breached broadcasting rules.But the programme’s editor defended the item, claiming he had been inundated by messages from supportive listeners, some of whom said the BNP ‘says what most of us are thinking’.The row comes after the BBC’s controversial decision to allow BNP leader Nick Griffin to appear on Question Time for the first time.One listener described the Newsbeat interview as so ‘staggeringly soft, woefully weak and uncritically unchallenging that I feel sick to my stomach’, while another said they were ‘shocked and disappointed’ to see the BBC giving ‘substantial and uncritical publicity’ to the BNP.The Mail on Sunday has discovered the full background of the two ‘young BNP supporters’ identified by the BBC only as Joey, 24, and 28-year-old Mark.Both men are senior officials in the BNP party hierarchy, and one has a notorious history of racist, homophobic and anti-semitic views and is a self-confessed admirer of Adolf Hitler.

BNP officials Joey Barber and Mark Collett

Party officials Joey Barber and Mark Collett pose as ‘BNP supporters’ for Radio 1 Newsbeat but they have senior roles in the organisation

 

Joey is Joseph Barber, also known as Joey Smith, who runs the BNP’s record label Great White Records and is one of its leading artists, recording tracks including Pondlife and Christmas Is A British Thing.The other guest was Mark Collett, the former leader of the Youth BNP and now the party’s head of publicity.He was exposed in a Channel 4 documentary Young, Nazi And Proud in 2002, when he was filmed saying ‘Hitler will live forever’ and said of British black people: ‘Just because a dog is brought up in a stable, doesn’t make it a horse.He also said: ‘AIDS is a friendly disease because blacks, drug users and gays have it.’Collett was tried on race-hate charges after another documentary, BBC1’s The Secret Agent, broadcast secret footage of alleged racist activities – but was cleared after two trials .Radio 1, which has 11million listeners a week, featured the two-minute interview with the pair ten days ago, as well as another with party leader Nick Griffin. A transcript is on the BBC website, with a direct link to the BNP website.

Mark Collett

Mark Collett, a senior BNP activist, seen in a Channel 4 documentary in which he confessed to admiring Adolf Hitler

 

Radio 1’s young audience, including many from working-class backgrounds, is also the key target for the BNP. Their campaigning helped them poll more than six per cent of the vote in June’s European elections, winning two seats.That success has forced the BBC to give more airtime to the party, including Griffin’s controversial invitation to appear on BBC1’s Question Time on October 22.BBC guidelines, which govern all the Corporation’s output, set strict criteria on the use of anonymous sources.The rules say: ‘With an anonymous source… we must give the audience as much information about them as is compatible with protecting their identity, and in a way that does not mislead the audience about their status.’We should normally identify on-air and online sources of information and significant contributors, as well as providing their credentials, so that our audiences can judge their status.’The interview was also an apparent breach of National Union of Journalists guidelines which say that when interviewing representatives of racist organisations, ‘journalists should carefully check all reports for accuracy and seek rebutting or opposing comments. The antisocial nature of such views should be exposed’.

Mark Collett panel

 

But Newsbeat did not disclose any details about its BNP interviewees’ backgrounds other than their first names and ages – and now refuses to discuss the reason behind the decision.Reporter Debbie Randle, who interviewed the men, did not question them about their roles in the party or ask them about any previous controversy.Unprompted by either of the activists, she invited them to give their views on Chelsea football star Cole. Born in Stepney, East London, he has now gained his 72nd England cap in the World Cup qualifier against Ukraine, which England lost 1-0.’So when you see someone like Ashley Cole play for England, are you happy to watch him?’ she asked.’Joey’ replied: ‘If he wants to come to this country and he wants to live by our laws, pay into society, that’s fine.”But,’ Ms Randle asked, ‘if he wanted to call himself British that would be a problem?’Joey replied: ‘He cannot say that he’s ethnically British.’Asked whether it was ‘OK for people who are not white to call themselves British’, he said: ‘You cannot say they are ethnically British. It’s denying our heritage. It’s taking that away from us.’


Joseph Barber panel

 

Newsbeat did not reveal anything about Collett’s background – including the TV exposés and subsequent court cases – but featured his views on whether ‘the idea of races mixing was a bad thing’.Collett said: ‘I would be upset if there were no more giant pandas, I’d be upset if there were no more lions, if there were no more tigers, so equally I’d be upset if white people weren’t here any more.’Asked why the views of people who had lived here for a generation should not count, Collett added: ‘Are you trying to compare somebody, or a group of people, who’ve lived here for maybe 30 years, to people who’ve lived here for 40,000 years? There’s a vast, vast difference in timescale there, my dear.’The BBC said the editors of Newsbeat would make no comment on the decision not to reveal who Collett and Barber were.But Newsbeat editor Rod McKenzie had previously published a blog on the BBC website responding to criticism. He wrote: ‘We’re impartial – that means we should examine all political parties and put their representatives on the spot with fair and firm questioning.’Impartial journalism and censorship do not sit happily together. We believe in getting the facts and the arguments out there for people to decide – not in judging what is “right” or “wrong” in a political context – that’s for you to do. The BNP are not an illegal party. They enjoy electoral support and have elected representatives.

Debbie Randle in the BBC studios

Asking the questions: Debbie Randle in the BBC studios

It is the BBC’s job to properly examine all legitimate political parties that operate within the law and for which people clearly vote. A great many texts we received [after the broadcast] were broadly supportive of the BNP. Over time, it’s evident from following our listeners that the party touches a nerve of support or interest.’The large pile of texts on my desk raise issues around immigration, political correctness and an apparent frustration with mainstream politics that means the BNP, or at least some of their policies, appeals to some people.’It’s also clear that not much is known about the party’s policies beyond immigration and race which is something we were keen to explore – and did.’By the way, we also received messages of support from those who believed we had exposed the weakness of the BNP on a range of issues.’Mr McKenzie appeared to be unaware that it is common BNP practice to mobilise members to post supportive messages on websites whenever their party is in the news.The broadcaster has also responded to the 100-plus complaints it received about the interviews from listeners.The BBC’s complaints unit said: ‘Newsbeat interviewed Nick Griffin and two young BNP activists in the light of huge audience response to recent stories about BNP electoral success and what they stand for.’Both interviews were rigorous and the bulk of the tough questions asked were inspired by, or directly quoted, listeners.’Our audience have diverse views on these subjects and many believe we should examine the BNP’s policies more closely. This was a way to shine a light on the views of the BNP, allowing people to make up their own minds.’But Shadow Culture Secretary Jeremy Hunt called on the BBC to launch an investigation as to whether the interview breached its guidelines.He said: ‘The point of interviewing the BNP is to make sure that they are held to account for their totally noxious views. It would appear that did not happen here and that is a matter of great concern.’

l-r Rod McKenzie, Simon Mayo and Chris Moyles

Radio 1 Newsbeat editor Rod McKenzie, left, with BBC radio presenters Simon Mayo and Chris Moyles, himself no stranger to controversy

MP John Whittingdale, chairman of the Commons Culture and Media Committee, said: ‘If the person being interviewed has a track record in the public eye and holds a position in a political party, then to pass him off as a young person just expressing his own view is not an accurate portrayal and I would expect the BBC to make clear who they are.’This should be looked at by the BBC management and possibly the BBC Trust [the Corporation’s governing body]. Potentially there may have been a breach of the BBC guidelines. This needs to be properly looked at.’A BNP spokesman said the BBC had merely asked the party to provide two young supporters from Northern England. He said: ‘They just said they wanted young members.’We were surprised not to have faced more difficult questioning but Radio 1 is not a heavy-duty political organ like Radio 4. It is an informative thing for young people. It is not too serious.’It set out to find out what we think. The platform of Radio 1 is very informal, it is all first names, that is how younger people are. People’s surnames are not as important as they are to another generation.’The controversy comes after Radio 1 breakfast-show host Chris Moyles sparked outrage over ‘misjudged’ comments about filming for the family history show Who Do You Think You Are?Moyles said: ‘I went off to Ireland and other places to film and, unlike a lot of the Who Do You Think You Are? shows, I didn’t go to Auschwitz. Pretty much everyone goes there whether or not they’re Jewish.’

In full…the Newsbeat interview that caused a storm

This is the BBC’s own full transcript of the Newsbeat interview:

Randle: Do you think it’s OK for people who aren’t white in this country to call themselves British?

Joey: Civic-ly British they are. You cannot say they are ethnically British. It’s denying our heritage. It’s taking that away from us.

Randle: At what point do they become ethnically British? How long do they have to be here?

Joey: Well, I think it would be an awfully long time before someone would become ethnically British.

Randle: So when you see someone like Ashley Cole play for England, are you happy to watch him?

Joey: If he wants to come to this country and he wants to live by our laws, pay into society, that’s fine.

Randle: But if he wanted to call himself British that would be a problem?

Joey: He cannot say that he’s ethnically British.

Randle: Why is the idea of races mixing such a bad thing?

Joey: If everybody integrated it would take away everybody’s identity.

Mark: I would be upset if there were no more giant pandas, I’d be upset if there were no more lions, if there were no more tigers, so equally I’d be upset if white people weren’t here any more.

Randle: But we’re the same species, which makes it a bit different, doesn’t it?

Mark: You could say that but if all of a sudden there weren’t any sparrows and there were only crows, I’d still be sad there weren’t any sparrows.

Randle: Can you understand that some people are happy to mix?

Mark: No, I think people have been brainwashed. I think the media, the Government, have forced it down people’s throats and they’ve indoctrinated people.

Randle: You don’t think people are bright enough to decide themselves?

Mark: I think when people are bombarded 24 hours a day to force multiculturalism upon them, people are going to succumb to that. We shouldn’t have to bend our ways to people who’ve been here five minutes.

Randle: You’re talking like people here are on holiday. They’ve lived here, some of them, for a generation, some of them for longer. Doesn’t that count?

Mark: Are you trying to compare somebody, or a group of people, who’ve lived here for maybe 30 years, to people who’ve lived here for 40,000 years? There’s a vast, vast difference in timescale there, my dear.

Randle: My point isn’t the difference in times between one group of people and another, it’s saying they’re not visitors, they are not holidaymakers, they are people living here.

Mark: If I went to live and work in another country then I would still adhere by their culture and they should adhere by ours.

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